HELP!! (O_o)

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
03/09/2016 at 15:28 • Filed to: HELP

SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY THE 911, MY CHILDHOOD, AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!! ;_;

Context: Last summer, a guy saw me working on the car in the garage and asked me if I wanted to sell it. I said I’m not sure and he’d have to ask my dad; I gave him his number and he left. I then went to work and told my dad not to sell my childhood.

Well, that guy surprisingly came back today while I was finishing up the valve covers and asked again if it was for sale and had $16,000 cash in hand if I wanted to sell it while I was working on it, looking around the car as I worked on it. And this guy knew his Porsche stuff to, damn near scared me with his knowledge. He knew more than enough to know what it was and what it had.

Again, he called my dad and then told me this: “He said it’s YOUR car, so you have the final say.”

So first off, my dad said the car belongs to ME now. HOLY SHIT. I’ve reached the point in our relationship where I now have actually acquired full inheritance of the 911, save for insurance. Holy wow Batman, I actually froze and was speechless when he said this. One thought that went through my head was “Dad, why the hell would you put this on me now?”, but I knew this would happen eventually. This is the third time it’s happened with me in the car, but this guy is persistent.

I offered the 944 instead, trying to save the 911, he didn’t want it, but would ask around (so technically it is for sale for the right price if anyone wants it). So I now have until Friday to give him a yes or no for $16k. I don’t want to sell my childhood away, I think I’d die, have a heart attack or something. And I’ve never been on the selling end of a car before, not one like this. What the hell do I do?? Kinda panicking! The right thing to do is say no. I need to tell myself this and repeat it as many times as my brain will allow.

DISCUSSION (66)

yamahog > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:30

Wow, that man is dedicated! I honestly don’t know what I’d do in that situation. You can’t put a price on memories, but it’s hard to turn down.

ETA I know nothing about porches, listen to party-vi

Nibby > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:32

Cry. A lot. Forever.

Opposite Locksmith > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:33

Sell it for 22k

??????

Profit

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Opposite Locksmith
03/09/2016 at 15:35

BUT I DON’T WANT TO SELL IT ;_;

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:35

DO. NOT. SELL.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:35

Say 20k and take his phone number if he says no.

Party-vi > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:36

So...some guy called your dad about your dad’s car and then the same guy that wants your dad’s car said “oh BTW ur dad said it’s your car so totes sell it to me for the cash I have in my hand.” Did you talk to your dad about this? Did you do any research on what a 911 Classic is going for ? $16k would be about right for an almost-basket case. There’s a 911 in CA for $16k and it’s half burnt to a crisp.

I think you need to tell this guy to get real with his offer or piss up a rope. He probably thinks you’re a dumb kid and will sell it to him for cheap. Don’t let him take advantage of you.

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:38

Then... don’t?

Future next gen S2000 owner > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:39

Then man up and tell that guy to take a hike. He is betting on the values going up. Repeat after me

“I’ve thought about your offer, but I’ve decided to keep the car.”

If you sell it, so help me I will come to your house and force you to drive a 1992 Cavalier. An auto too. Then I will slap you with a live halibut.

iSureWilll > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 15:39

This. $16k is so low. That is why he said “Cash in hand, 16k. CASH” I’m not too privy to 911 values but my guess is that it would be worth north of $25-30k for the right buyer and at LEAST $23.5 if you needed moniez.

Party-vi > iSureWilll
03/09/2016 at 15:40

I was thinking low $20Ks as the least. $25k would be a good starting point. Honestly the guy seems a bit predatory offering $16k for it.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Future next gen S2000 owner
03/09/2016 at 15:40

Why not a Herring?

Kinja'd!!!

Nonster > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:40

I think its worth more than what he’s offering and it doesn’t sound like you want to sell it so don’t. It’s probably going to continue to go up in value so I don’t see a need to dump it unless you really need the money

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:40

If, and thats a big if, you were going to sell it I would not take the 16k. An original 911 would garner a lot more on the open market.

If you want to put it up for sale for a ridiculous number right at the beginning of spring, think something like 40k. Best case scenario you made a ton more money that you should have, worst case you get to keep it.

finn's arm > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:41

I would have flatly laughed in his face with that offer.

Sweet Trav > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:41

Kinja'd!!!

Sell it for more and buy this

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 15:41

THIS

16k cash in hand is a lot of cash. It was an intimidation factor trying to get him to make a snap decision because he saw dollar signs in front of him.

scoob > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:42

I don’t want to sell my childhood away, I think I’d die, have a heart attack or something.

So don’t. Why is this even a question?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:44

Don’t. Sell. It.

Jayhawk Jake > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:44

Sounds like you don’t want to sell it. If it’s truly your car, then don’t.

KirkyV > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:45

Nah, don’t sell it.

1. It’s worth more than that anyway.

2. This is just based on the other posts of yours I’ve read about this car, and your history with it, so hey, I could be wrong: you’ll never, ever, ever, ever, ever be able to buy anything with a tenth of the value to you, personally, with any amount of money. You will regret selling - sometimes only at the back of your mind, and other times with a painful keenness - for the rest of your life.

JDIGGS > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:46

No way man are you kidding? 911's are going through the roof. There are guys shipping hundreds back to Europe every couple months. In 5 years you will not be able to find an older 911 unless you are flat out loaded.

You can keep this car and use it every goddamn day, it will be worth just as much as if you kept in the garage. Driving a car is good for it, sitting is not.

If you are trying to make this a financial thing, you’d be stupid to sell it now instead of in 7 years. You could enjoy the car a bunch and still gain incredible value.

If you aren’t only concerned with money why the heck wouldn’t you keep this, and enjoy it. It may sound materialistic but if i was a big part of your dads life it could easy be very important to you later in life. That being what the hell is the rush?

Tell him no.

in response to the other guy I agree, I don’t think you mr op have any idea how much this car is actually worth or more importantly the rate it’s been climbing over the last 5 years.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 15:46

No, my dad has said I actually have the final say in the matter. I went to work a while ago and he confirmed what he said. I this is forcing me to do things I never thought I’d have to do, I’m not an assertive or direct person when it comes to this and I’ve never done anything like this before. I’m extremely passive, but this is going past a line. I know the right thing to do is not sell it for such a price or at all, but I don’t know what to do for his response if I say no. I just don’t know.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Future next gen S2000 owner
03/09/2016 at 15:47

It’s the only way...I have to muster the courage and muscle to reject his offer.

gawdzillla > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:48

why are u even consider selling it when you know you can get more (like at lease 5-10k more) any day of the week

why are you even crying and dont know what to do ?

I’ll gladly take that 911 off your hand, for free, if you are still having issues. (free sounds better than 16k right)

Gone > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 15:48

Ya...considering targas (barf) get mid-20s plus and can go into the 40s, 16 is a low ball. Find it’s real value (this is a G-series, not sure?), then start there with pricing if you’re willing to sell. If you sell, take 90% of that, open a brokerage account (if you don’t have one) and invest it wisely.

TheRealBicycleBuck > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:50

Selling it would be one of those decisions you regret for the rest of your life, especially for such a lowball offer. If you do sell it you will try to buy another when you get into your forties. Then you will REALLY kick yourself since the value will have shot through the roof.

Sweet Trav > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:52

Give him a price that makes it worth it to you. Just say “32k and it’s yours. That’s the price, otherwise I’ll be keeping the car”

Party-vi > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:56

You’re not telling him “no”, you’re telling him that his offer was too low and you would be open to a better offer. Leave the ball in his court. Chances are (if he isn’t serious) he won’t contact you again. If he is serious then he’ll know you’re not an idiot and might offer you something reasonable.

Or just tell him it’s not for sale and let him make you a crazy offer, something like $30,000, but considering the 911 bubble hasn’t broken yet I’d hang on to it.

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:56

Ok, to expand on the responses you’ve gotten below, you have a few options here (this assumes your dad is really cool with your decision either way).

1. Sell him the car for 16k cash.

2. Figure out the actual value of the car (I’m 110% sure it’s over 16k if he brought that in hand and started with that number), and then haggle to a deal.

3. Don’t sell the car.

Now, to me it sounds like you don’t want to sell the car at any price. That’s cool, I have stuff I’m the same way with. Even if you don’t like confrontation, you’ll hate getting rid of it more, and knowing that you screwed up every time you go in the garage. So just say, “I’m sorry, the car isn’t for sale.”

Tripper > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:56

Keep the 911, you and your son or daughter can continue the memories. Plus this...

Kinja'd!!!

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:57

DONT SELL IT. Either way, it’s worth MUCH more than $16,000. And while that $16,000 may seem like a lot right now, later in life that’ll be pennies compared to what the car will be worth. I couldn't sell my S600 unless it was literally life or death.

DirtyBird > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 15:58

http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/5455707410…

vondon302 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:00

Hell I’ll buy it for 16000.

vondon302 > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 16:02

What party-vi said.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:03

I wouldn’t. I’m in kinda the same situation with the ‘57, and I’ve got a standing offer for $5000, but I realized that if I let it go I most likely will not have a chance to have one again, especially for free.

jordang1028 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:04

Don’t do it. Aside from the fact that he gave you a crap offer, you will regret it. Sold my childhood car (learned to drive stick in it, went out on first dates in it, first speeding ticket, etc...) and it was the worst decision I ever made. Keep that car!!!

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:07

Don’t do it. He’s basically stealing it with that offer. Give it a couple more years and if you really did want to sell it throw it in an auction and rake in the monies

Gone > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 16:18

The bubble will burst at some point, just like any other bubble. So it comes down to on what’s currently more valuable to K-Roll, sentiment or money. Money, sell soon. Sentiment, sell...some other time?

As an older guy, if I was young again, I’d probably take the right amount of money and then make more money. Wait a awhile and then I can buy whatever the hell. However, I’ve never had much sentiment for a specific/my old man’s car - he sold his musclecar before I was born, so I don’t have a similar reference at all. That car is long gone. Now, I would like one or two of mine back, but I don’t mind getting something similar as it doesn’t need to be that EXACT car. In other words, I’d take the actual value, invest, and then buy a similar 911 in the future. But odds are against ever buying his dad’s car again...

Meh, I’d probably keep it. I dunno...haha

Future next gen S2000 owner > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/09/2016 at 16:21

Solid choice. Can’t believe I missed that one.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Future next gen S2000 owner
03/09/2016 at 16:26

At every oppo rtunity lol

I think this guy was trying to flash some cash in front of KRoll to get him star struck into taking the deal, it’s not enough money for the car. They’re not even my thing and it’s not enough money for the car.

Dude knows his Porsche’s so he knew 16k was robbery.

Jayhawk Jake > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:34

You’ve never said no?

It’s no big deal. Even if he keeps pushing, just keep saying no.

MuchWagon > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:42

If you don’t want to be confrontational you can say, “No, thank you.”

But for serials its your car your Porsche, not his. Your decision. Be polite until he is pushy, then politely tell him to fuck off with his lowball offer. He’s an expert it seems, so he’ll know exactly which exhaust port you are referring to when you politely tell him where to shove his $16k.

Autohaus Derp > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:45

There’s your answer then!

Jonathan Harper > Party-vi
03/09/2016 at 16:48

...but he should be telling him “no.”

PushToStart > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:49

Don’t sell it. For a few reasons. 1. You don’t sound like you want to. 2. 16K is a shit offer. Even if you WERE interested in selling it, you’d be crazy to bite at that number. You have the negotiation power to get way more money, or just wait it out and ride the wave that is air-cooled 911 values (spoiler alert: they’re going up)

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 16:58

$16K for a 911? You probably can tell him that he must think you fell off the turnip truck yesterday.

You need to decide what would make you get out from under it. If he offered you $30K. $40K. $50K?

Which is what I did with my F-150. I said that if I could get $4K for that 20 year old truck, I’d take it. I had a guy offer me $2750. Told him to come back when he actually had more money.

Next guy who looked at it offered $4K. No need to haggle, since I wanted out at this point. I took it and left.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 17:40

What’s the KBB value for it?

Elumerere > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 17:43

Don’t sell it. Way too low for that car. Also, keep it, drive it, enjoy it, then sell it for 4 times what he offered.

Elumerere > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 17:45

Just say no. You don’t owe that person anything. At all.

Elumerere > Shane MacGowan's Teeth
03/09/2016 at 17:49

Yes. Learning to say no and learning to ask for things in a direct way are invaluable lessons in life. The earlier you do, the better. I took way too long to start learning that, sadly. It cost me tons.

Elumerere > DirtyBird
03/09/2016 at 17:51

This.

Elumerere > finn's arm
03/09/2016 at 17:53

Pretty much yes.

E92M3 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 18:08

I got $17k right now, tell him to buzz off.

RallyWrench > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 18:37

If your 911 is as clean as it looks, it’s worth well more than $16k, not that you can put a price on history. If you can keep it, do so.

for Michigan > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 18:51

Do you have any desire at all to sell the car?

Big Bubba Ray > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 21:45

DO NOT SELL K-ROLL. I REPEAT. DO. NOT. SELL.

16K is a pittance and you’d regret selling it for the rest of your life. If your dad is truly going to give that beautiful car to you, fucking hold on to it! It’s more than just a car to you.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > Sweet Trav
03/09/2016 at 21:56

That’s incredibly garish.

Speed > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
03/09/2016 at 23:51

If you end up selling this car, just don’t do it for 16k. Ask top dollar or don’t consider it. You own many people’s dream car and neve have to sell if you don’t want to. If you ever do, however, make it count.